motorola backflip

Ya but then you would miss out on all the whining and attention you could get on here!

i don't have a Droid, i do however have friends with them.

i personally have Samsung's answer to the Droid, the Moment.

it's great and already hacked and running a new kernel and theme.  wifi tether is amazing.

/Joutening. 

i heard a customer at work refer to the Backflip as the Backflop.  She's considering leaving ATT because of it.

I don't think it's leaving over the phone itself, rather leaving because of what at&t is doing to the phone.

http://gizmodo.com/5488495/att-doesnt-allow-non+market-apps-on-android+based-motorola-backflip

this too http://gizmodo.com/5483832/att-ditches-google-for-yahoo-search-on-motorola-backflip

then again i don't know the person.

Meh, the iphone is locked down the way it is because of apple, not at&t. and obviously the backflip isn't as good as an iphone or even a droid, but the fact that at&t is crippling it as a way of protecting the iphone is just wrong.

If the Backflip is what At&t is going to do to Android phones I don't blame anyone for thinking of leaving to another carrier. I would want an Android phone because of what makes it great, not a watered down locked phone. If I wanted that then I'd just get an iPhone. As far as apps go from what I understand their is no Android marketplace, only the At&t marketplace. It's doubtful that At&t will offer premium apps that will be useful without costing a fair bit. Now I'm not comparing this phone to a Droid or a Nexus, I just think that you should let Android be Android.

verizon mms limits = 100k
non verizon purchased downloads change mp3 extensions to another format making files unforwardable
palm pre can't download from my website
boost, metro, virgin, all have downloads blocked
sprint made the original instinct only capable of streaming 3gp, could not download

do you see where i am going with all of this?
not only is att the only company that hasn't yet interfered with its internet....
but what does any of this have to do with the keyboard being on the backside

right, but i can tell you guys (being that i am an Android user), if they took out recovery, or made it impossible to reach, there goes your hacking.  no more, no less.  ATT took Android and watered it down to nothing but a gimmick...  again, you might as well keep your Eternity, because from the sound of it, you guys have it more hacked than the Backflip will be...

and if that wasn't enough, they'll still charge you for owning a "smart" phone even though they dumbed it down.

Hmmmm.... Upon doing some more research, I am not sure what we are all getting in a fuss about. The only real restriction I found was the lack of the unofficial apps option. It is my understanding that the Backflip still has access to the official Android marketplace. The official market does not have a screening process like Apple, only an automated one that looks for technical coding errors. So (again, if my understanding is correct) you would be missing out on what? The porn apps? Oh damn; that's what my laptop is for

After playing with the phone in an AT&T store yesterday, I have to say that I like the hardware itself (granted the screen could be bigger). The keyboard is very spacious (good for me, as I have large fingers), and the "backtrack" thing behind the screen is neat, if questionably useful. I do wholeheartedly agree that AT&T loading their crap-tackular bloatware on their is a really lame move, and against the whole idea of Android, but there are ways around it.

It seems that the main reason that AT&T has locked out the "unofficial apps" is to try to prevent tethering. Again, kind of big-brotherish, but I suppose it is their network...

Anyway, just thought I'd play the devil's advocate there. Can anyone tell me about some killer unofficial app that Backflip users would miss out on?