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« on: March 04, 2010, 08:19:49 PM »

ok, so all the hype is about google phones. AT&T has one now.
but what exactly is the point of having the phone flip open backwards?
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 09:07:39 PM »

Don't think their is a point in it. Other then a strange placement of the keypad At&t has went ahead and branded the phone with their typical bloat ware. They swapped out Google search for Yahoo search and various things to that degree. So a better question would be why have an Android phone when your carrier is just going to make it useless?
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2010, 01:18:01 AM »

i guarantee it'll be hacked within weeks of release...  god bless android!
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2010, 02:45:57 AM »

Agreed that it will be hacked. I personally think that this is kind of AT&T's attempt to shoot Android in the foot before it gets going to protect the iPhone. I mean, the first android phone that they offer is this goofey thing. It is essentially the next evolution of the Eternity, in a way, in that it is toned way down to keep it "simple" essentially a lot of carriers are moving towards smart phone "lite". Use the power of android and in this case Motoblur to make it a great messaging and facebook/twitter gadget, and not much more. Reviews for the backflip say it is WAY underpowered.

Personally I am hoping that the other 4 Androids that AT&T is said to be releasing are good... They could use something in their stable other than the jesus phone, some crappy Winmo phones, and a blackberry or two. Verizon really, really has them beat line-up wise.
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« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2010, 10:46:58 AM »

Agreed that it will be hacked. I personally think that this is kind of AT&T's attempt to shoot Android in the foot before it gets going to protect the iPhone. I mean, the first android phone that they offer is this goofey thing. It is essentially the next evolution of the Eternity, in a way, in that it is toned way down to keep it "simple" essentially a lot of carriers are moving towards smart phone "lite". Use the power of android and in this case Motoblur to make it a great messaging and facebook/twitter gadget, and not much more. Reviews for the backflip say it is WAY underpowered.

Personally I am hoping that the other 4 Androids that AT&T is said to be releasing are good... They could use something in their stable other than the jesus phone, some crappy Winmo phones, and a blackberry or two. Verizon really, really has them beat line-up wise.

no, Sprint currently has the best all-around smartphone line up

Sprint vs Verizon

BB Curve 8520 (Sprint)/8530 (Verizon) = same phone, moving on

BB Tour 8700 (Sprint only) = CDMA phone when in America, GSM phone everywhere else

Palm Pre (Sprint)/Palm Pre Plus (Verizon) = only difference i saw is that Verizon took away the button that turns the app you're running in to one of those little cards, on the VZW version, it's a soft key which i don't like...

Palm Pixi (Sprint)/Palm Pixi Plus (VZW) = take the respective Pres, and get rid of all the good stuff and you have the respective Palm Pixis...

Samsung Moment (Sprint)/Motorola Droid (VZW) = Droid has better marketing, Moment doesn't fall apart. (Literally, the back of the Droid WILL fall off and Moto/Verizon's answer is a sticker...)  you pick which one your want

HTC Hero (Sprint)/HTC Eris (VZW) = same phone, but the few times i've been to a verizon store, the Eris never boots properly...  either that or it doesn't boot as fast as the Hero...  either way, i'm giving this one to Sprint...

both companies also offer obscure other BBs for businesses, but i'm not including those...
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« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2010, 02:05:53 PM »

Agreed that it will be hacked. I personally think that this is kind of AT&T's attempt to shoot Android in the foot before it gets going to protect the iPhone. I mean, the first android phone that they offer is this goofey thing. It is essentially the next evolution of the Eternity, in a way, in that it is toned way down to keep it "simple" essentially a lot of carriers are moving towards smart phone "lite". Use the power of android and in this case Motoblur to make it a great messaging and facebook/twitter gadget, and not much more. Reviews for the backflip say it is WAY underpowered.

Personally I am hoping that the other 4 Androids that AT&T is said to be releasing are good... They could use something in their stable other than the jesus phone, some crappy Winmo phones, and a blackberry or two. Verizon really, really has them beat line-up wise.

I don't think AT&T is going to protect the Iphone by offering one more phone that happens to be an Android phone but fails miserabley. That's just bad marketing, because there goal.... at least I THOUGHT any goal of a business was to sell as many products as possible. I think AT&T's is to cell as many Iphones as possible, which is down right stupid.
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« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2010, 03:15:44 AM »

So basically they used Android as the basis of the OS but tweaked it untill it was as restricted as a feature phone? 

Personally while I love Android and I really want an android phone, I wouldn't by this or any Motorola Android phone.  Honestly moto's suck, they make the most flimsey piece 'o crap phones out there and if you look at them wrong they'll break, and yeah the keyboard is stupid.  Basically someone cameup with the name "Backflip" and some morons in a board room discussed "how can we make the name make sense... HEY I GOT IT". 

Here's to hoping AT&T gets the Nexus One eventually!
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« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2010, 02:35:02 PM »

Doubt At&t will be getting the Nexus One seeing as Apple is suing Htc at the moment. Apple and At&t are attached at the hip and one doesn't want to piss off the other. As far as the backflip goes in my opinion it seems like At&t just wanted a market for Android, and think that most their customers are idiots. Basically lets sell an Android phone because that's what the peons keep hearing about. Seeing as our customers know nothing we can strip it down, make it useless and they will still buy it because that is whats hot at the moment.
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« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2010, 03:34:14 PM »

So basically they used Android as the basis of the OS but tweaked it untill it was as restricted as a feature phone? 

Personally while I love Android and I really want an android phone, I wouldn't by this or any Motorola Android phone.  Honestly moto's suck, they make the most flimsey piece 'o crap phones out there and if you look at them wrong they'll break, and yeah the keyboard is stupid.  Basically someone cameup with the name "Backflip" and some morons in a board room discussed "how can we make the name make sense... HEY I GOT IT". 

Here's to hoping AT&T gets the Nexus One eventually!

Moto is known for making some of the tougher phones in the industry, I thought? Only recently have they re-entered the consumer space in a good way, and that was the droid...

Oh well, hopefully the other 4 androids set for AT&T will be good. According to Cnet they are getting the Dell Mini 3 smartphone, something from HTC, and 2 others. I was certainly hoping they would just bring over the GSM cousin of the droid, but AT&T will likely want things that only it has...
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« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2010, 04:16:07 PM »

Maybe they are tougher now, but I used to have the Motorola MPx220 windows mobile smartphone.  Feature wise it was awesome, build quilaty wise it was very very poor, especially for the $320 I paid or it with a 2 year contract.  While the paint made it look like it was made out of metal and chrome, ti was actually a very flimsey plastic... put it this way at one point I found myself replacing the casing because the wear and tear of flipping the phone open and shut actually broke the casing along edge near the hinge.  Also my wife had a Motorola V557, and she litereally made 6 warrenty/insurance claims on it, due to many random issues it kept having.  Well it was a V551, then they discontinued it, gave her a 557, then finally a Razr V3.  The Razr V3 worked the entire year she had it, and while she's upgraded, we still have the Razr, and its backup phone.  Its been very durable and indestructable, however it must be one in a million because most people I've known with the Razr have had nothing but trouble with it.

I will say to per friend reccomendation and after the smartphone died, for a short period of time I used a Motorola V557 that I bought off ebay... and one day I pulled it out of the pocket and the antenna litereally fell off of it!  You couldn't put a new one on either because the cheap plastic threads broke inside the casing.  I tried everything to get the antenna to stay inside the casing but eventually gave up and bought a cheap nokia 6030 to finish the contract.

Anyway I did hear Google just filed a patent with the FCC for a nexus one that includes AT&T's 3G Bands... but what I don't get, why didn't the original Nexus one just have all the GSM bands in it to begin with? 

Anyway I may switch networks when the contracts up... honestly its stupid for me to be on AT&T anyway since I get an ungodly discount from Verizon being a Lowes employee.  I get a 7% discount from AT&T for being a lowes employee but from Verizon they have special deals on all the equipment, and its 20% off montly calling plans, and an additonal 20% off all data plans.  I just re-signed with AT&T last time mainly because Its what I'm used to... in fact Cingular/AT&T is the only company I've ever been with in 8 years of hacving a cell phone!
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« Reply #10 on: March 07, 2010, 06:55:25 PM »

Google filed for a patent for UMTS bands, not GSM bands. Most if not all GSM phones have all 4 GSM bands. It is the UMTS bands that are particular to ATT.
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« Reply #11 on: March 07, 2010, 08:21:19 PM »

the Moto Droid is fail...

the back of the damn phone will fall off.  verizon's solution?  put a sticker on it.  weakness incarnate.
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« Reply #12 on: March 07, 2010, 08:43:37 PM »

That causes a phone to fail? Wow? With all the bugs the eternity had I guess you should take it out back and shoot it. Too bad you can't put a band-aid on the eternity to fix it. I believe motorola has fixxed this issue now.
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« Reply #13 on: March 08, 2010, 01:29:46 AM »

That causes a phone to fail? Wow? With all the bugs the eternity had I guess you should take it out back and shoot it. Too bad you can't put a band-aid on the eternity to fix it. I believe motorola has fixxed this issue now.

There are "perfect" phones of each age. In my honest opinion (even when I hate Apple), while it lacks in features, the iPhone is almost bug-free.

There are worse bugs in the "upgrade" phone, samsung impression. The texting bug is 100 times more annoying than the Eternity's T9 issue, my girlfriend has to restart her impression twice a day or more due to it.
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« Reply #14 on: March 08, 2010, 12:37:39 PM »

the Moto Droid is fail...

the back of the damn phone will fall off.  verizon's solution?  put a sticker on it.  weakness incarnate.

If your having a problem with your Droids back falling off.... goto Youtube. There is a very easy fix for it... just bend the little latch on the back.

Man, when I have a problem, I just google it.
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